Season 1, Episode 1 – Brian McLaren

Join Bruce Reyes-Chow and Carol Howard Merritt as they welcome writer, speaker, and Emergent Church thinker, Brian McLaren (A New Kind of Christianity: Ten Questions That Are Transforming the Faith)
for a discussion of following God’s call even amongst criticism.  Also, Carol and Bruce speak with Fritz Gutwein of The Quixote Center about the earthquake in Haiti and how you can continue to support the rebuilding of the island nation.

To listen, use the player at the bottom of the post, or right click here and “Save as…”

In this episode:

0:00: Bruce speaks with pastor Abby King-Kaiser about how her art intersect with her ministry
4:56: Bruce introduces the theme of the episode and Brian McLaren
6:31: Brian McLaren shares how he began writing – “a sense of pain and unpreparedness”; church members asking questions about postmodernism and deconstructionism
8:32: McLaren shares the various reactions to several of his books
10:00: McLaren: “I thought Generous Orthodoxy was a safe book that no one will disagree with”
11:28: “Almost anything can be forgiven except the failure to maintain the same list of enemies”
12:00: McLaren shares how he deals with his critics; forgoing the right to fair treatment
19:00: Bruce and Carol reflect on Part 1 of McLaren interview
25:30: McLaren’s thoughts on pastors dealing with difficulty in their present position
30:00: McLaren emphasizes spiritual practice as a prerequisite to following God’s call; silence and solitude
34:42: McLaren reflects on “the Death of the Emergent Church”
43:00: Bruce and Carol reflect on Part 2 of McLaren interview
52:45: Bruce and Carol speak with Fritz Gutwein about the earthquake in Haiti
1:10:08: Promo for next week’s episode: Carol interviews Bishop John Shelby Spong about his book Eternal Life: A New Vision: Beyond Religion, Beyond Theism, Beyond Heaven and Hell

Items mentioned in this episode:

The Underlying Tragedy” by David Brooks, The New York Times, 01/14/10
From Haiti’s ruins, a chance to rebuild a nation” by Alec MacGillis, The Washington Post, 01/17/10
Jubilee USA

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4 Responses to “Season 1, Episode 1 – Brian McLaren”
  1. Janet L. Bohren says:

    I really enjoyed this set of interviews, but was surprised by the interviews with Abby King and Fritz Gutwein. It was interesting to hear B. McLaren speak about how he deals with criticism, the state of the emergent church and his expectations for the future of the church, especially his warning about the possible relation between religion and hate driven reactions to terrorism. I think many thoughtful people in the church share this same concern. Also, it was very helpful to hear about Haiti, a bit about its tragic history and how US actions in the past are partly responsible for the tragic economic situation which exists today. Fritz Gutwein's plea for us not to forget Haiti once the country is no longer on the news is so important.

    Listening to Bruce and Carol discuss B. McLaren's comments was helpful in thinking through the implications of what McLaren said.

    I really liked having a list of interview parts on the website. That was very helpful as I listened.

    Looking forward to more of Godcomplexradio 2!

    • Janet,

      Thank you so much for listening. I was really pleased with the new format. Landon put an incredible amount of work into it. It's definitely nice to be able to reflect on what's being said more…. let it digest a bit.

      It's a lot more work, but I think it will be fun!


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