Episode 3 Behind the Scenes

Season 1, Episode 2 – John Shelby Spong

Join Carol Howard Merritt and Bruce Reyes-Chow as they welcome writer and speaker Bishop John Shelby Spong (Eternal Life: A New Vision: Beyond Religion, Beyond Theism, Beyond Heaven and Hell) for a discussion of death–and eternal life. Also, Carol and Bruce speak with pastor Melissa DeRosia about the recent Supreme Court decision on campaign spending, the trial over California’s Proposition 8, and the forthcoming Presbyterian Church report on Civil Unions/Christian Marriage.

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Some highlights from this episode:

0:00: Carol speaks with pastor Beth Sentell about a vision she had while giving birth to her son
5:45: Carol introduces the theme of the episode and Bishop John Shelby Spong
7:51: John Shelby Spong shares how he responds to criticism of his thoughts and writings; “for most people religion is the search for security and not the search for truth”
12:45: Spong: “Death is a universal experience”; “The presuppositions of the tradition way a viewing life after death have been destroyed”
20:20: Bruce and Carol reflect on Part 1 of Spong interview
31:21: Spong: “I don’t think Christianity…will ever give me peace of mind or certainty or security…it will give me the courage to live in a world that is always insecure.”
35:00: “I seek to reach those who want to live in a 21st century world with a 21st century mind”; “We’ve created God after our own image”; Sin and guilt are not healthy
50:39: Bruce and Carol reflect on Part 2 of Spong interview
1:05:20: Bruce and Carol speak with Melissa DeRosia about the recent Supreme Court decision on campaign spending, the trial over California’s Proposition 8, and the forthcoming Presbyterian Church report on Civil Unions/Christian Marriage
1:30:19: Promo for next week’s episode: Carol talks with author and religious leader Samir Selmanovic (It’s Really All About God: Reflections of a Muslim Atheist Jewish Christian about embracing “The Other.”

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Episode 2 Behind The Scenes

Season 1, Episode 1 – Brian McLaren

Join Bruce Reyes-Chow and Carol Howard Merritt as they welcome writer, speaker, and Emergent Church thinker, Brian McLaren (A New Kind of Christianity: Ten Questions That Are Transforming the Faith)
for a discussion of following God’s call even amongst criticism.  Also, Carol and Bruce speak with Fritz Gutwein of The Quixote Center about the earthquake in Haiti and how you can continue to support the rebuilding of the island nation.

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In this episode:

0:00: Bruce speaks with pastor Abby King-Kaiser about how her art intersect with her ministry
4:56: Bruce introduces the theme of the episode and Brian McLaren
6:31: Brian McLaren shares how he began writing – “a sense of pain and unpreparedness”; church members asking questions about postmodernism and deconstructionism
8:32: McLaren shares the various reactions to several of his books
10:00: McLaren: “I thought Generous Orthodoxy was a safe book that no one will disagree with”
11:28: “Almost anything can be forgiven except the failure to maintain the same list of enemies”
12:00: McLaren shares how he deals with his critics; forgoing the right to fair treatment
19:00: Bruce and Carol reflect on Part 1 of McLaren interview
25:30: McLaren’s thoughts on pastors dealing with difficulty in their present position
30:00: McLaren emphasizes spiritual practice as a prerequisite to following God’s call; silence and solitude
34:42: McLaren reflects on “the Death of the Emergent Church”
43:00: Bruce and Carol reflect on Part 2 of McLaren interview
52:45: Bruce and Carol speak with Fritz Gutwein about the earthquake in Haiti
1:10:08: Promo for next week’s episode: Carol interviews Bishop John Shelby Spong about his book Eternal Life: A New Vision: Beyond Religion, Beyond Theism, Beyond Heaven and Hell

Items mentioned in this episode:

The Underlying Tragedy” by David Brooks, The New York Times, 01/14/10
From Haiti’s ruins, a chance to rebuild a nation” by Alec MacGillis, The Washington Post, 01/17/10
Jubilee USA

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Episode 1 Behind The Scenes